According to the Scriptures, the totality of the sin of the saints is said to be separated as far as the east is from the west and indeed at the bottom of the ocean and forgotten forevermore (Psalm 103:12).  But, what does this mean?  It is certainly not that we have earned a certain favor with infinite holiness that this be so.  Nor is it that we have simply grown in enough knowledge of God, the scriptures, holy things and that now we are holy and desire to be so.  How does one who is so flawed and sinful begin to utter the thought of coming boldly to the holy One who judges in perfect righteousness?

Consider the Davidic covenant in contrast to the establishment of King Saul’s reign.  Saul was the choice and handsome son of Kish (1 Sam. 9:2).  In that time, there was not a more handsome person than he among the children of Israel.  From his shoulders upward he was taller than any of the people.   In the midst of all the children and tribes of Israel, it was eternally decreed that Saul be anointed King.  Indeed the spirit of God moved Samuel to do so (1 Sam. 10:6).  It seems that Saul would be more fit than all others to fulfill the role of king over the Israelites since he was chosen by God (1 Sam. 10:19).

The rebellion of Israel during this time ultimately brought Saul to be king over the nation.  While the Israelites flounder in unbelief and fail to obey their fathers and the law of Moses, they simply requested to have a king to reign over them.  God granted their request and gave them Saul through the prophet Samuel (1 Sam. 8:6-8).  From the tribe of Benjamin, the biggest and strongest in all the land of Israel became the king and ruler of God’s people.

Saul’s unbelieving and unlawful sacrifice in the midst of the Philistine battle would very soon provoke the rebuke from God by Samuel to Saul by demonstrating that he was never truly fit to be king.  “But now your kingdom shall not continue.  The Lord has sought for Himself a man after His own heart, and the Lord has commanded him to be commander over His people, because you have not kept what the Lord commanded you” (1 Sam. 13:14).  So began the decline of the reign of King Saul.  He had not in mind the righteousness and holiness of God.  He ultimately cared not to please and worship God himself with his heart, mind and very life.  “Now the word of the Lord came to Samuel, saying, ‘I greatly regret that I have set up Saul as king, for he has turned back from following Me, and has not performed My commandments’” (1 Sam. 15:10-11).

Saul’s apparent brokenness over sin caused him great emotional distress due to his knowledge of rebellion in heart and what God has spoken through Samuel.  So distressed was he that he claimed to be repentant of heart and desired pardon from sin that he may worship God (1 Sam. 15:25).  Being a king in desperate need for a turn of events in his favor, Saul heard the worst possible news from the prophet of God.  “And as Samuel turned around to go away, Saul seized the edge of his robe, and it tore.  So Samuel said to him, ‘The Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you today, and has given it to a neighbor of yours, who is better than you” (1 Sam. 15:27-28).  Everything that seemed to be in favor of Saul in the beginning of his reign would no longer be kept, honored and blessed by God.  He proved to be an unfit, sinful, selfish, unbelieving and ultimately worthless king.  But God would soon again prove faithful to his people.

Although Saul was no longer king over Israel, the scriptures say that he continued to worship God during this time (1 Sam. 15:30-31).  Samuel, the prophet, seer and man of God, even continued to mourn the loss of Saul as king.  But, God soon comforted, rebuked and commanded Samuel to fill his horn with oil, and go to Jesse the Bethlehemite.  Soon after the consecration of Jesse and his sons, they sacrificed a heifer to the Lord.  The most seemingly unfit and unlikely of men would be chosen by God to be the anointed king of Israel.

“But the Lord said to Samuel, ‘Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him.  For the Lord  does not see as a man sees ;  for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart” (1 Sam. 16:7).  God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise (1 Corinthians 1:27).  The small, weak and otherwise pathetic people in the world are those whom God has chosen to bear his name and wear a crown of glory.  The spirit of the Lord was with David from the day he was anointed king and indeed forevermore.

It is evident throughout history and is demonstrated through particular historical events that Yahweh is king of all creation.  David is one of the many sinful human instruments that God has used to establish his people on earth to ultimately triumph over evil and sin and into an everlasting covenant for the glory of his infinite name.  God had instilled this truth and knowledge in David so that all battles and wars to win and the lands and people to acquire were God’s according to his eternal plan and not the temporal affairs of man.  Therefore, only God’s power is able to triumph over evil and establish vindictive judgment over the unbelieving and uncircumcised nations surrounding beloved Israel.

The dichotomy is presented to all of Israel that David’s kingdom shall continually flourish and Saul shall continually grow weaker and weaker (2 Sam. 3:1).  Throughout the numerous battles between David and Saul, it is David who continually prevailed because the Lord was with him and, “gave his enemies into his hands.”    The true impotence of man is demonstrated by the events that God has orchestrated to care for and protect the children if Israel despite continual oppression, developed enemies and even the sin of Israel and David in particular.  So shall David be established with complete dominion over all his enemies.  “He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.  ‘I will be his Father, and he shall be My son.  If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men.  ‘But My mercy shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I removed from before you.  And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you.  Your throne shall be established forever’” (2 Sam. 7:13-16).

When God’s people enter battle under their own strength, they shall be utterly lost and defeated without the power of Yahweh handing them their enemies.  The omnipotence, sovereignty and grace of God is perhaps most greatly displayed when man is recognized as nothing at all and “as a drop in a bucket,” compared to the holiness of the Most High.  It is when man humbles himself and made into nothing that he shall be exalted.  It is when he sees that God must be a savior in order to be a deliverer. Then his enemies will be given into his hands. David had this in mind:  “The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer; The God of my strength, in whom I will trust; My shield and the horn of my salvation, My stronghold and my refuge; My Savior, You save me from violence.  I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised; So shall I be saved from my enemies (2 Sam. 22:2-4).”

Under the old covenant and the law, God wrought recompense for the sins of his enemies through condemnation and death.  This is even true for those included among the children of Israel who were not part of true Israel.  In other words, there are those who dwell among the people of God, attend worship, pray, read the scriptures and yet otherwise perish in their sins because they are ultimately enemies of God.  King David was not more or less of a sinner than any other born from women, for “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5).  It was David who committed adultery with Bathsheba and consequently ordered the death of her husband Uriah.  After the adulterous affair, it was David’s son who consequentially died within seven days of birth.  God was displeased with the sin of David, king of Israel and servant of the Most High (2 Sam. 11:27).

Nevertheless, it is David who was known for worshiping God freely in the spirit which even causes an envious heart in Saul’s daughter, Michal, for his intimacy with God (2 Sam. 6:14-16).  Enemies of surrounding nations, including the Philistines, were continually handed over to David.  His name was progressively made more great and famous throughout the land of Israel.  Those who read of the life of David are left only to realize the infinite power of God to glorify his own name in the midst of the most tumultuous scenarios in the lives of his people.  It is perhaps the infinite mercy of the Lord to not only give all things to David, including delivering his enemies that are greater in size and multitude, but to ultimately deliver him from the power of sin and death.  It is God’s chastisement of David’s sin that proves he is a son of God and not David’s ability or even longing to be a great king and warrior.  It was for the sake of God’s own name.  “O LORD, do not rebuke me in Your anger, Nor chasten me in Your hot displeasure.  Have mercy on me, O LORD, for I am weak; O LORD, heal me, for my bones are troubled.  My soul also is greatly troubled;  But You, O LORD-how long?  Return, O LORD, deliver me!  Oh, save me for Your mercies’ sake!  For in death there is not remembrance of You;  In the grave who will give You thanks?” (Psalm 6:1-5).

The power of indwelling and public sin casts a dark shadow upon the soul of every believer.  It has the power and ability to change the direction of one’s life and wreak havoc on daily circumstances, believer or unbeliever.  It can create seemingly unbearable and unthinkable consequences, such as Bathsheba becoming pregnant with David’s son while she is married to someone else.  The greatest and most permanent consequence of sin is death.  A sinner left to himself, like Saul as king, will only lead to destruction.  The Lord says in proverbs, “But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul; All those who hate me love death” (Proverbs 8:36).  How can we distinguish the sin of those who are sons of God and those who will go down to the Pit (Prov. 1:12)?

The gospel that Paul preached began with acknowledging the law.  It was made because of transgressions and the law in itself is good.  We would not know sin if not for the law (Romans 7:7).  However, since Adam, our federal representative fell into sin, all others, including David, have inherited it by nature. Therefore, we are not justified by the law but rather condemned.  Nor are we made right with God by trying to keep it under our own righteousness and power. “Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith” (Gal. 3:5).  Paul is suggesting something perhaps foreign and outrageous to the church at Galatia as a former teacher of the law and a pharisee of pharisees.  The biblical truth of being justified by faith is probably most greatly realized by the apostle Paul.

“Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness” (Genesis 15:6).  Both Abraham and David believed God for their righteousness because of promise.  So must we, in Christ  They also knew specifically of the righteousness and holiness of God.  So must we, in Christ. But, perhaps more precisely they believed by faith that God forgave their sins and would not remember them anymore despite the sin that they continually committed against infinite holiness.  So must we, in Christ.  All the forefathers could not manifest even by faith, “the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints” (Col. 1:26).  It is something that even angels desire to look into (1 Peter 1:12).  This mystery is also hidden from the world, from those who are are rich and well learned and from those who will not inherit the grace of eternal glory.  It is something so manifestly and unutterably glorious that it is, “according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith” (Romans 16: 25-26).  The mystery of the gospel is realized in what we know as the covenant of grace when the now indwelling holy spirit of God enables believers to have the belief, power, knowledge and ability to obey God in Christ.

Understanding the glorious depths of the gospel comes primarily by understanding the purpose of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ given in the new birth .  Paul understood that all of the promises made by God to his people of old were ultimately fulfilled in Christ.  All of the sin of Adam, David, Israel, Moses and those who are yet to be saved must be nailed to the cross.  There is no other way to be saved from sin and the omnipotent wrath of God.  “And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still dead in your sins!” (1 Corin. 15:17).  Where the blood of calves and spotless lambs do not ultimately forgive sin, the judicial power of the blood of Christ is supremely enough to satisfy the ransom for the infinite payment required for sins.  The death of Christ satisfied the debt for sin but the resurrection of Christ turns death and all evil to life and hope.  The sinner that was once dead can now live by faith in Christ. Jesus says in the Revelation of John, “I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore” (Revelation 1:18).

Thanks be to God for all the promises of old that are completely fulfilled by Jesus Christ in the new covenant.  “For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second” (Hebews 8:7).  The writer of Hebrews explained the promise, “For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.  In that He says, ’A new covenant,’ He has made the first obsolete.  Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away” (vv.12,13).  The all-consuming majestic power of God is seen when the visible image of the invisible God in his humiliation came to be, “the cursed who hangs on a tree” (Gal. 3:13).

Now, our completely depleted account of self- righteous filthy rags is completely filled by Jesus Christ due to his perfect obedience to the law.  His righteousness is now ours because he gave or imputed it to us, by grace and infinite mercy.  Our confidence is now not how close we can obey the law (which is judicially impossible at every moment due to depravity and fallen sinful nature), but our belief by faith in what only Christ has already done for us.  Therefore, our obedience to the law is really obedience to Christ because the law is only our tutor that leads to him (Gal. 3:24).

The great name of King David was passed on through each successive generation until the new covenant, beginning with his son, King Solomon, the richest and wisest man who has ever lived and ever will live.  But, perhaps the greatest theological reality of the Davidic covenant (besides being a type of Christ and in which his direct lineage leads to the birth of Christ, Matt. 1) is that before the great name of David was the great name of Noah, Abraham and Moses.  These great men of God served and loved God with all of their hearts.  God knew them and loved them.  He called them by name and made them what they were in his sight.  Nevertheless, none of these foundational spiritual forefathers were without sin and unbelief.  One may take only one look through the scriptures at each one of these men to find that by nature they are no different than any other born from woman.  The only difference between these men and any other is that they ultimately were justified by faith, in Christ.

“I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”  Galatians 2:21


    I.   It is the primary way to commune and fellowship with God

   II.  It is the only decree in which to combat spiritual warfare

   III.   It is a conduit from the holy spirit to the soul that allows for immediate access of grace and deliverance from enemies, the world, sin and temptation

  IV.    It enables the Christian to obtain empowerment through the holy spirit and to obtain particular spiritual gifts if God so wills

  V.   It causes and enables the regenerate Christian to enter the supernatural realm and to be merely used as a vessel that is subject to the direct power of God to attain and obtain extraordinary means to an end

 VI.    It is a primary means to thank God for gifts that He has freely bestowed through grace; namely, eternal life.

 VII.  The regenerate is immediately humbled the moment he is  succumbed to infinite power in prayer as he approaches the throne of grace to request interceding power outside himself.

 VIII.   It is a limitless opportunity to humbly submit requests to our Father and to seek his will in particular affairs

 IX.    To be healed or for the specific healing of someone else

 X.    Because believers are commanded to pray in holy scripture

Have you prayed today?

“He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”  ‘Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’”                     Matthew 16:15,16

 There are those who may attempt to discuss sanctification without the necessary preceding and continual repentance.  The truth is that without one, the other cannot exist.  Without repentance, it is impossible to be sanctified.  Without sanctification, it is or is becoming a clear signal that there never was true repentance (Hebrews 6:4-6).  Without the true gospel, then true repentance and sanctification do not mean anything to the sinner.  For prior to sanctification, or the continual work of the holy spirit in one’s life that makes him like Christ until glorification, one must first be brought to their knees in repentance.   

The Christian (and non-Christian) mind needs to be continually reminded of the need to repent of sinful deeds against an infinitely holy God.  Only when this becomes a daily practice, as Paul claimed to die daily to the flesh, its lusts and worldly desires, will one begin to understand the marathon of sanctification.  Daily or continual repentance adds or builds another piece of wood on the house of sanctification, which the ultimate goal is clearly to not sin and to be like Christ.  Since that is impossible on this earth, due to depravity and the reality of indwelling sin, one must trust and believe that only the holy spirit of God can cause any exceedingly sinful and fallen human being to want to be like Jesus Christ.   Only when we are carefully willing to not live by the law but to imitate Christ in thought, deed and in all situations by the spirit, will we then have a glimpse of understanding in our personal sanctification, that we may be made whole in Christ by putting on His mind (Phil. 2:5).


“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.”  Luke 14:26

 I love and adore the wife and son the Lord has given me to great lengths.  The affection and love for my wife far surpass my affections for any other on earth.  My dearest son the Lord has chosen to bless me with provokes a spirit of jealousy and covetousness as a male lion defends his cubs because of his vulnerability and my newly found love for him.  I feel I would gladly lose my life for either one of my wife and son because of my love for them (my wife primarily).  Because of the sovereignty of the Lord Jesus, I treasure each moment I spend with them as I know it may be my last.  Because I do not know the minute or hour that I should pass into glory, God has chosen part of the fruit of my labor to be in the mutually transacting love and affection portrayed the immediate family that he has given me.  Although a strong passion to display the glory of God in relationships on earth is part of God’s wisdom and decree, it cannot and should not ever surpass the affectionate love for the savior and pursuance of holy thoughts that comes directly from the eternal throne of grace.

Being a disciple of Christ seems to be a flippant idea tossed to and fro by professing believers and unbelievers alike.  The causality of such ideas seems to have preeminence in contemporary cultural man-pleasing doctrines and thoughts.  The essentials of Christianity and basic biblical doctrine is easily forsaken and gladly replaced with carnal affections and desires.  Rather than seek the meekly wisdom and godly fear of what being a disciple of Christ means, we seek to at least publicly acknowledge that we are disciples of him and privately, however, we concede to our sinful desires that indeed denounce the very implication and profession of being his disciple.  That being said, there is a great deal of joy that can be expressed in the drastic claim of our Lord himself that we must, “hate our mother, father, wife, children, and self,” to be his disciple.

Firstly, we will be married to Jesus Christ for all eternity.  The apostle John states, “Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of The lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.  And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints (Revelation 19:7-8).”  Although the affections that my wife and children and even family may stir upon my emotions and a spirit of joy, it is not of an eternal kind.  Because I will be eternally married to Jesus Christ and not my wife, only he can provide the sustenance that produces spiritual fruit to worship with a mind that is in preparation for the marriage supper with the Lamb.  While loving my wife as Christ loves the church as I am biblically commanded is indeed a vital part in producing this spiritual fruit, it is nevertheless a preparatory effort for the eternal marriage that my (and my wife’s) soul was created for.  All of those whom God has effectually called in eternity past to be justified and married to him, he knits them in their mother’s womb to be drawn to him at a particular moment while on earth through irresistible mercy, grace and for eternal glory. 

The voice of Christ, therefore, will be or become like no other on this side of eternity and will be perfected when we see him as he is.  The life-giving aroma that effectual grace provides leaves us only to be in desperation of more of it and indeed are caused to covet the source of which it is derived.  “My heart is overflowing with a good theme; I recite my composition concerning the King; My tongue is the pen of a ready writer.  You are fairer than the sons of men; Grace is poured upon Your lips; Therefore God has blessed you forever.  Gird Your sword upon Your thigh, O Mighty One, With Your glory and Your majesty. And in Your majesty ride prosperously because of truth, humility, and righteousness; And Your right hand shall teach You awesome things.  Your arrows are sharp in the heart of the King’s enemies; The peoples fall under You. (Psalm 45:1-5).”

Secondly, only Christ can and will ultimately forgive my sins.  If I discuss matters of crucifying the flesh and its emanations as I participate in heavenly fellowship with the brethren of whom I have great love for, it cannot replace the replenishment that I receive from pure grace that only comes from Christ alone.  In fact, all acceptable connotations from the brethren must direct any sinner to remembrance of the blood that fell from the tree that our savior was hung upon.  If lust has entered the mind and proceeded throughout the flesh, we will be reminded of grace yet again because of the nails that were driven to even allow one to supernaturally overcome sin and temptation.  In the midst of a disagreement with the wife that I love, it is innate knowledge that on the horizon there may or must be the virtue of forgiveness portrayed from one to another and if not both to each other.  But, even if this were to happen, it is only by and through a mere glimpse of the ultimate grace of forgiveness in Christ that must be truly known and experienced prior to my sins being forgiven by my wife or my brother. 

Thirdly, God decreed procreation and family to worship and glorify him in abundant freedom with the love that only stems from his ever-flowing graces that provokes holiness and the realization these graces can only come from him.  It is not as if God, in his infinite perfection and majesty, was in desperate need to create anything.  He lacks nothing.  Creation and procreation are decrees of wisdom that were enacted to display the perfect glory and holiness (among other things) of God on earth.  Due to the presence of sin and thus sinners, any and every family in the history of mankind is naturally tainted and indwelt with sin, ruin, death and hopelessness, apart from grace.    

Because of our lowly state of being and existence of potential self-destruction, the Lord has organized every facet of life to exalt only him as the, “chief among ten-thousand (Song 5:10).”  There is none like him.  The new birth defines and unveils the only grace the universe knows.  In our self-seeking desperation, we are led away from the sting of eternal death and rottenness, where the worm never dies, to the wonders of inexpressible and undeniable grace that supplants eternal life.  A sense of gratefulness is effectually enabled by the spirit in the believer that causes all idols, people, worldliness, sensuality, self-satisfaction and pride to be set aside and put to death so as not to glory in the flesh and this life.  If we are continually putting on the new man and putting off the flesh, then we lose all confidence in anything to do with this world that is promised and guaranteed to pass away along with its lusts (1 John 2:17). 

In conclusion, I believe Luke 14:26 is a verse of perspective from our Lord.  It is not as if we are declared to hate in the most literal sense our fathers, mothers, husbands and wives.  That would directly oppose the great commandment to, “love our neighbor as ourselves.”  Rather, a distinction is being made that our love, subjection, reverence for Christ as savior and Lord over all things, must in all cases supersede our love and affection for family members.  To reiterate, it is clear in the scriptures that relationships serve as and are in fact a conduit of the grace of God to sinners and common men.  However, to divulge, Paul states, “But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ.  Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;  that I may know Him and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being confirmed to His death, if by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead (Phil. 3:7-11).”

It is not my family or friends to whom I must give an account of my life (2 Corin. 5:10).  It is not my wife that I will be married to in eternity (Matt. 22:30).  Rather, the holy spirit has, in the infinite sense, sealed my soul to respond to Christ alone to know that he provides all things, including a wife, children, family and friends on earth.  For, he created all things by the word of his power.  It is in our subjection to the eternal will of God that in grace we will see his wisdom behind all family and relationships.  When we are in grace, then we must and will consider all things as loss for the sake of knowing and following Christ above everything else.  It is for the imperative sake of our own souls and the glory of Christ.

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I have and will rarely post anything on my blog [website] that is seemingly irrelevant to the purposes and ultimate goal of my writing.  Much of it has to do with the risk and temptation of being slanderous and sounding like a gossip. However, since I care about the reputation of John Piper and his ministry, I will address this issue that has seemed to permeate the reformed blogosphere in a more negative than positive way.  Namely, John Piper has invited Mr. Rick Warren to speak at the 2010 Desiring God Conference.

            At first, I responded the same way that many people did that are, “Piper fans.” Since I have at least read both of Piper and Warren, I have always typically considered them to be in two different categories doctrinally and theologically.  One of the reasons this is true is that I started my Christian life with reading books like, “The Purpose Driven life.”  If I were to read that book now, I would probably not find as much spiritual edification from it is as I thought I did when I was first converted.  I have been introduced by God’s spirit to reformed theology or Calvinism, i.e., the systematic biblical view of soteriology and the doctrine of God.  Now, I find much encouragement from reading the Puritans like Owen and Edwards, among others, like John Piper.  Through John Piper’s ministry, I have been revealed to understand God’s wisdom and purposes of theology and doctrine in the Christian life. 

            One of the things that I have learned over the last six years or so of my Christian life is that your “theology” or “doctrine” is not something that is an option if you are a Christian.  Some professing Christians thrive on the, “What can God do for me?” attitude that never seems to place much emphasis on the importance of theology or the “moving on to deeper things.”  In other words, the emphasis of this effort is on the self and not on God himself.  Since everything we believe about God, Jesus Christ and sin is considered our “theology,” and therefore either true or not; therein, I believe, lays the seeming divulgence between John Piper and Rick Warren.  However, there are five basic reasons why I believe Dr. Piper should invite Rick Warren to the DG 2010 Conference.

1.)    Although John Piper believes that Rick Warren is, “doctrinal and theological,” according to his statement about him, I still believe that Warren will be far more affected by Piper’s preaching than vice versa (whether Piper’s statement is true or not).

2.)    Since John Piper is a Calvinist, hopefully those who follow his ministry and teaching believe in the Sovereignty of God as he teaches.  Therefore, they should trust that God is infinitely wiser in His sovereign decisions, regardless of what man sees at face value. Therefore, it is God who invited Rick Warren to the 2010 Desiring God Conference. 

3.)    Neither John Piper nor Rick Warren wrote the Scriptures.  They are merely two teachers of what was already written infallibly throughout the generations by the holy spirit.  Both men are fallible and both are sinners.  Therefore, both will be accountable to God for what they teach and not to man (ultimately).

4.)    Rick Warren’s invitation will be a great tool in the testing of hearts and character of those who “follow” John Piper.  If we worship the Christ that Piper preaches, then we are humbled at the request of Piper’s invitation of Rick Warren.  However, if John Piper is viewed as in idol or “celebrity preacher” if you will, then these are the people that are most tempted to slander or immediately consider Dr. Piper an apostate or heretic.  We may be proven to actually worship or have worshiped John Piper.

5.)    Rick Warren’s invitation does not prevent truth from being spoken, the gospel from being preached and Jesus Christ from being glorified.

But I am very curious to see what happens.  I am pretty sure John Piper is too.